Motor Sports & rev heads in general

[Peter Vic]

Following on from Pocket Monsters suggestion, I thought I'd get the ball rolling, or the motor started so to speak....

I know that a large number of PMers love their V8s and many of us also follow other forms of motor sport....

so...

This is forum, for those with petrol in their veins, and a nose full of ethanol fumes....!

I read today (in the Melb. Herald Sun) that the V8s are slated to come back to the F1GP..
Not much detail, but I'd hope that the round forms part of their championship season, and that something is formulated to aleviate the issues with pits and so on...

Also, there is a round of the superbikes tonight live on Foxtel (8:30) from Britain, a delayed telecast of the F1 circus from Monaco....

Cheers, Peter...

[Peter Vic]

Pocket - just a bit of background info on Chris Vermeulen...
His claim to fame is through the superbike series - supersport champion (600cc category) and runner up in 2005 in world superbike category..
Because this is a less publicised racing format than Motogp where Australia has produced world champions like Wayne Gardiner and Mick Doohan, I am not surprised that Casey Stoner is more well known...
Even riders like Troy Bayliss & Troy Corser aren't that well known, despite being champions in superbikes.
Stoner has come thru the ranks of motogp, and being a winner in all categories, has more media coverage...
Stoner now rides for Ducati, and Vermeulen is on the less competitive suzuki, but is a class act in the wet....

Cheers, Peter...

[Peter Vic]

Even riders like Troy Bayliss & Troy Corser aren't that well known, despite being champions in superbikes..

Well, they finished race 1 as 1st & 3rd respectively, and in absolutely shocking conditions...
:12cheer:

Go AUSSIES, go !

And for what it was worth, Bayliss was $2.75 to win....

:15cool:

Cheers, Peter....

[Ewok]

I know I went last year to the Grand Prix and it was more of a demonstration from the V8s...excellent though the whole hill shook..whereas the Formula 1 was more noise
Excellent day out though.:14clap:.would recommend it to anyone.
Things going all day and not just racing either

[Peter Vic]

A terrific event - Have been to Adelaide too when the F1s were there..
Not an ideal spectator event as general admission, but well worth it for the atmosphere, the crowd, the noise, and just seeing how fast the cars actually are...
The V8s are amazing, but the F1s are staggering....

The V8s are superb, and the race (GP) needs to cater for them too - full championship round with points - not just a couple of meaningless demo races..

Cheers, Peter...

[Kitkat]

the thing is though, it IS the Grand Prix weekend and the V8's are there to support them .....

I went to the GP in Adelaide back in the late 80's when there was true racing between drivers .. Senna, Prost, Piquet, Mansell and Berger ... Nowadays its more like put a monkey in the correct car and anybody can win.:3rofl3::3rofl3::3rofl3:

Poor Mark Webber seems to pick the wrong car/team ... he needs a McLaren or Ferrari drive to progress further.

And don't get me started why I don't like Michael Schumacher:!!!icon26

[Peter Vic]

I think that the race weekend can cater to both forms of racing - the V8s do get their supporter base as well as the F1s...(and crowd attendance is important to keeping the event)
Certainly the F1s are the main act, but no reason not to have the V8s, (and their followers) attend the day(s) esp. if it counts as part of their championship..
As to picking the correct car - I'd have said that the car manufacturers go in cycles - one team has an advantage for a few seasons, then gets overhauled in the next...
Ferrari had it, now Renault have it, McLaren had it....
You are right, you just have to be in the right place at the right time...
Mind you, there are a lot of drivers with 98% talent, and a small percentage with that little bit extra....!
Not always does the "best" driver have the best car....

I'm very much in favour of the A1GP series - which comes down to driver ability given that the cars are "the same"....(just a shame that some of the drivers tend to be a bit second rate)
But maybe that's to do with what they are offered in terms of pay....

Cheers, Peter...

[Peter Vic]

A great night for the Aussies - Anthony West just won the 600CC supersport race in Britain...!!!
Give a guy with talent a decent bike and see the result - terrible conditions to race in, but 33 seconds over 2nd place...!

Go Westie !!!

Maybe he'll be offered a factory ride when he returns to the 250cc class in motogp...!!!!

Cheers, peter...

[Michael@ton]

Well, Peter a GREAT start, it's a bit daunting that you know so much about ALL forms of Motor Racing, I usually try and catch the F1 and MotoGP, as you said the 2 TROYS aren't as well known because they are only on Superbikes, and it is so hard to come from Superbike to MotoGP, as the teams that usually grab the Superbike riders aren't that well off, as far as support from the Manufacturers is concerned, but given the right team I believe either of the Troy's would show the world that Australia does produce some good bike riders, I know they have had a go at it b4 but in inferior teams, hoping that their sheer class would pull them through, but as you say, Peter, unless you have the FULL package of a Team, with the Manufacturer's absolute support, it wouldn't matter who rode the bike, they wouldn't win unless all rivals fell off on a greasy wet track.

Thanks for the low down on Chris V, he appears to have come up on the wrong side of the tracks, but his "sheer class" will get hm a LONG WAY. As has been said we again will show the world that we are more than meat pies, Kangaroos and Holden Cars, (not that there is anything wrong with those three items), it's just that we have so much more.

Lastly I would like to put forward my frustration with A1GP, I think that Alan Jones lost a lot of money on that venture, although some of the countries involved, would hardly pull a half filled arena, some of the Asian countries, have had little exposure to Motor racing. and it certainly shows with the results.

An excellent start Peter and good to see another Thread on the Entertainment Lounge. :23goodjob

[Ewok]

When Indy is on the Indy drivers love the V8s. And so do F1. I think it is too close to Adelaide and normally they have crashed the cars.

I agree with you Kat on Schumacker...I was pleased to see him go...so arrogant.

[Michael@ton]

I agree with you Kat on Schumacker...I was pleased to see him go...so arrogant.

That whole issue reminds me of a "Fawlty Towers" episode, "Don't mention the War", quite hilarious, I still break out in belly laughs when I think of it. :3rofl3::3rofl3:

As for Mark Webber, I am pleased as punch that he is Australian, but the way he is going, I think he'd better set his sights a little lower than he has at present, surely each team he joins can't have the same thing happening to them, the dreaded DNF, besides it's name, whenever Mark gets in their car, maybe you are right Katina, if he could get in a Ferrari or even better still a Renault, things might change as they are proably the 2 most dependable teams rolling around at the moment, alas, to get there you have to prove yourself, and therein lies the Catch 22.

Hope you enjoy this Thread that Peter Vic. started after a chat with me on the Forum, I believe we have a lot of closet REV-HEADS in our midst, be it in MOTORBIKE or Car (in all their forms of Racing) :auto: :auto:.

[Peter Vic]

I believe either of the Troy's would show the world that Australia does produce some good bike riders..

You may be interested to know that there are 3 Aussies flying the flag in Motogp, and at least 6 in superbikes (both classes)...
So, I think we have our fair share of world class talent on dispay, and a couple also on the US scene in indy carts..

And have to mention Marcus Ambrose in the Busch car series too...

Loved Troy B's last race in 2006 - superbike champion, and then had 1 race in motogp and won that...!

:MISSIN~18

Cheers, Peter...

[Peter Vic]

The Italian MOTOGP is on tonight - 7:00pm on Fox sports, and Chan. 10 with a delayed telecast at 11:30 (ish)

Haven't seen any qualifing times as of yet...

Cheers, Peter...

[Kitkat]

Peter try this link http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/motorbikes/6715159.stm

it should make you happy:hurray::hurray::hurray:

[Peter Vic]

Peter try this link http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/motorbikes/6715159.stm

it should make you happy:hurray::hurray::hurray:

Thanks for that Kat....

http://www.motogp.com/en/motogp/index.htm

is the site I normally use....

And Casey Stoner on pole, and Chris Vermeulen in second...!!!

:12cheer:

Cheers, Peter...

[Peter Vic]

Rossi wins the Italian MOTOGP....

Not the results that one expected from the pole setting times, but that gives him 6 from 6 at the Mugello track - An amazing effort....!!!

Stoner in 4th by the way....

Just goes to show that experience certainly is a match for youth....

Cheers, Peter...

[Michael@ton]

Well done to "The Doctor", it is a great effort to win 6 consecutive Home MotoGP's, a reasonable effort by the Aussies, but a bit disappointing considering their pole positions (1st & 2nd), whereas Rossi came from 3rd position. :thumb:

An excellent ride by Valentino, so Casey Stoner will have to open up that Ducati of his a bit better, if he wants the Championship and Chris V, will have to work miracles on his Suzuki, to even get close to either of them.

But to have 2 out of 3 riders in the top three starting positions says a lot for our Aussie riders, heres hoping that Casey, for sure and Chris a good chance to make a good showing in the 2007 MotoGP Championship. :12cheer::12cheer: GO THE AUSSIES. :12cheer::12cheer:.

[Peter Vic]

Pole qualifying times were done in wet conditions - hence Vermeulen being so close to the top..
Tyre choice on race day caught many out, as they'd prepared their bikes to suit the wetter conditions...
Experience is everything when you're caught on the hop of what suspension/tyre settings - And Michelin have always produced the winning tyre at that track for the last 7 years too..
The bridgestones while certainly improving in the 2007 season (stoner etc using them), haven't got the compund(s) worked out to suit Mugello...

Cheers, Peter...

[Michael@ton]

To start my post, a question: are the V8's racing today and if so where??

Well the MotoGP Circus is off to Catalunya, tonight for the SPANISH Grand Prix.Haven't had a chance ofchecking up the pole positions for tonite, but Fingers and Toes crossed for a good chance again tonite, lets give it our best tonite Casey and Chris and I hope we don't have to call for "the doctor". :3rofl3::3rofl3::3rofl3:

[Peter Vic]

Rossi
De Punient
Pedrosa
Stoner
Hopkins

Are the qualifing positions, with 0.393s separating 1st to 5th....

Cheers, Peter..

[Peter Vic]

And V8 supercars also on as well from Eastern Creek......!

Qualifying starts in about 19 mins...

Go Ford !

Cheers, Peter...

[Michael@ton]

Well at least the Eastern Creek trcak would have had time to dry out a bit, we haven't had rain out West for a solid 7 hours now, not that we have had Sunshine, in fact it is starting to look decicedly loke some more wet patches (2.30pm) are on there way.

By the way Peter, did they qualify (in Spain) on Wet or Dry tyres, the only time I feel at all confident against Valentino is in the Wet.

I've never heard of Du Punient b4, what's he on, whatever it is faster, marginally, than Casey's Ducati. :huge:

[Peter Vic]

Casey Stoner wins the Spanish GP - 0.069sec in front of Rossi with Pedrosa about .3sec behind in 3rd....
One of the best races I have had the privilege to watch (and I've seen a lot of 'em) - nothing between those 3 for the entire race, Stoner lead for most of it, and the top speed of the Ducati was not a factor..
All rider skill, and the 3 of them have it in spades....

De Puniet rides a Kawasaki and finished 5th (with major injuries including a broken collar bone) - speed wise, the Kawa is slower than the other manufacturers...

Race order of manufacturers was : Ducati, Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki and Kawasaki - Can't remember when the top 5 was held by 5 diff. manufacturers....

All qualifying was done in the dry - Rossi started favorite with the bookies - Stoner paid a nice $4.00 !! (yeah, I had a bit on him...)

Cheers, Peter....

[Peter Vic]

Eastern Creek V8 results:

Race 1
Skaife, Whincup, R. Kelly, T. Kelly

Race 2
Skaife, R. Kelly, Whincup, Lowndes

Race 3
T. Kelly, Lowndes, Skaife, Whincup

Overall round points :
Skaife, T. Kelly, Whincup, R. Kelly

So a clean sweep to the Holden brigade....

Cheers, Peter...

[Peter Vic]

Owing to TV delays on state and interstate telecasts for m/sport events, and in the interests of self preservation, any results that get posted will carry a spoiler alert.....

This covers local and international events....

Cheers, Peter...

[Michael@ton]

Agree with the Spoiler Alert Peter.

Certainly the moments of racing I saw were, nose to tail, with Rossi trying everything to pass Stoner, and Pedrosa, doing everything possible to take them both.

Congtrats on your win Peter, this may just be the start of something big for C Stoner.

[Peter Vic]

Congtrats on your win Peter, this may just be the start of something big for C Stoner.

Have been fortunate to have some "hard earned" on him, and may this trend continue...

At the rate he is going, Stoner may just have the ability to be the next MotoGP champion - Certainly would put him in with some very esteemed riders......

Cheers, Peter...

[Michael@ton]

De Puniet rides a Kawasaki and finished 5th (with major injuries including a broken collar bone) - speed wise, the Kawa is slower than the other manufacturers..Cheers, Peter....

I know it has been a long time since Kawasaki was a contender, they seemed to back off a lot on R & D a long time ago, I'd say back to the time that Honda first brought out their in-line Four (really showing my age here), but I still remember riding the fastest Production Bike on the Road at the time, it was a Kwaka, the three cylinder, two-stroked 750cc, used to fly and when the power band came in, I thought I was going to start flying. A long time ago now, the power bands of the four-strokes would match it and pass it easily now, but 35 years ago, that Kwaka was unbeatable in all aspects, until the Honda 750cc in-line 4 arose from the ashes, like Phoenix. :cheers:

[Peter Vic]

but I still remember riding the fastest Production Bike on the Road at the time, it was a Kwaka, the three cylinder, two-stroked 750cc

"A 750 H-2 still holds the record for the fastest normally aspirated 750 cc motorcycle, with a standing quarter-mile of 7.777 seconds at 170 mph by Brian Pretzel (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brian_Pretzel&action=edit) of Redline Motorsports (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Redline_Motorsports&action=edit)."

Never had the privilege of riding of of these beasties in any form, but did get a ride on the Z1R.....

Cheers, Peter...

[Michael@ton]

"A 750 H-2 still holds the record for the fastest normally aspirated 750 cc motorcycle, with a standing quarter-mile of 7.777 seconds at 170 mph by Brian Pretzel (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brian_Pretzel&action=edit) of Redline Motorsports (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Redline_Motorsports&action=edit)."
Never had the privilege of riding of of these beasties in any form, but did get a ride on the Z1R.....Cheers, Peter...

I only rode it once Peter, I think it scared me enough not to get on it again, at the time I was a mere 18yrs old and mainly riding Dirt Bikes, so my capabilities on the road were very minimal, but I did get to ride the Honda 4 quite a few times, even that had me CONCERNED, and that is editing it to the maximum.

I thought I was tough riding a Ducati Single 450cc, which had a lot of Grunt for something so small, but would hold it's own with bikes around 600cc, of that era, 35years ago.

They call them excitement machines these days, but I am sure that only one organ related to the "colon", would be working overtime in my case.

Thanks for the "Info" Peter, great to chat to someone who knows a whole lot more than I do about bikes and cars, usually I can't get a good conversation on this topic anywhere else. :wave::wave:

[Peter Vic]

Have owned a number of bikes over the years....

Kawasaki KL250 (road trail) - my 1st bike...
Suzuki PE400 (dirt bike - totally evil but fun)
Yamaha XT500 (road trail) - nice touring bike - lousey in the dirt...
Suzuki GSx 1100 - sounded fantastic with the 4 into 1 system..

And lastly, my favorite

Yamaha FZR750 - just a great piece of machinery....

Have pottered on vespas and a lot of other things too, and have managed to score a ride on a Harley '90 sportster.... That was really neat...

Cheers, Peter....

[Lady Bump]

have managed to score a ride on a Harley '90 sportster.... That was really neat...

Cheers, Peter....
Now youre talking machinery Pete.. Ive scored a ride on both a Harley and a Ducati.. Was a real treat noisewise and power wise.[Although scared senseless each time] Equals a fast ride in a V8:14clap:

[Peter Vic]

The ride on the harley came at a price - I had to ride the vespa first, then I got to pilot the harley... Was well worth it I might add...
Haven't had the pleasure on any european bikes, but I still keep the bike licence paid for... Kids permitting, I'll get another 2 wheeled vechile....

Cheers, Peter...

[Lady Bump]

Actually the chap that owns the Ducati lived two doors away, the house rattled each morning when he took off to work and you could here him go for miles on a still morning, hes upgraded now to last years model, a very nice machine. Kb's Uncle ,his wife and daughter all own Harleys and belong to the harley club of Tassie so no cost involved I just had to shut my eyes and hang on.

[Peter Vic]

Superbikes from Misano - another terrific result for the Aussies...

Race 1 - the 2 troys - Bayliss 1st, Corser 2nd..
Race 2 - Bayliss 1st...

Supersports - Anthony West - 2 in a row for hiim now....

Cheers, Peter...

[Peter Vic]

I just had to shut my eyes and hang on.

You miss all the fun that way !!!!

:dance:

Cheers, Peter...

[Michael@ton]

My bike riding ventures are well and truly over after seeing some of the destruction that has happened to people I know, but I think the Govt. finally got it right with the 250cc for the first year, at least in NSW.

I started small with a Yamaha 125 (Road/Dirt Bike), progressing to Europeans:
Bultaco Lobito (Little Wolf) 175(Road/Dirt)
Ducati 400cc Single (Power for Weight great back then)
Trialled a few bikes (BSA 750cc, Triumph Trident 750cc, and a couple of others including that scary ride on the Kwaka 750cc 3 cylinder 2 stroke until I bought one of the early model) Honda 750cc 4cylinders, I sort of had to think cars then, with a family on the way.

Last bike a friend and myself pulled down and had to send to England for any parts was a 500cc Royal Enfield, the amazing thing about that one was we finished in time for 2005, making it one of a handful of 50 year old bikes that had been fully restored to new condition. Had the twang of a lot of British Bikes, amazing how Enfield were making Motorbikes, Plane Engines (8 cylinder Rotary Engines) and the magnificent .303 Rifle for the British and Australian Armies.

The only Harley I have been on/in is a 1942 Harley Sidecar (Army Model), I was lucky enough to have a Boarder at home who used to give me a lift every now and then, nearly had a fit when I saw him taking corners, with the Handlebars, seemingly facing the wrong way, I eventually asked him why and he simply said that was the way they were built to be ridden, with a sidecar, I left it at that.

[Peter Vic]

Never had the sidecar experience, but love to watch them race speedway.. Sidecar motocross is interesting too.. Now that's something you'd be hard pressed to get me to try.....

Cheers, Peter...

[Peter Vic]

Great to see the Fords on top in Darwin.... (no pun intended)......

Cheers, Peter...

[Peter Vic]

Fantastic ride by Casey Stoner in the MotoGP in Britain....
Given that it was wet too...
And he extends his lead over Rossi....

And finally, Anthony West gets a ride in MotoGP - Kawasaki have given him a ride, was doing really well, considering he'd only riden the bike 2 days prior to the event...


Cheers, Peter...

[Michael@ton]

That's after about the 7th round isn't it, Peter, I really would like him to be further in the lead but the way he is racing, proves to me that he could be coming from behind with a couple of rounds to go )I hope he isn't of course) and still win, he has proven himself to be on the fastest bike, and also proven that he can out-ride "the doctor" on most ocassions. :thumb:

Chris was on the podium too, I believe.

[Peter Vic]

1.Casey Stoner http://www.highrevs.net/Icons/aus_flag.jpg Ducati Marlboro Team 165
2.Valentino Rossi http://www.highrevs.net/Icons/ita_flag.jpg Fiat Yamaha Team 139
3.Dani Pedrosa http://www.highrevs.net/Icons/spa_flag.jpg Repsol Honda Team 106
4.Chris Vermeulen http://www.highrevs.net/Icons/aus_flag.jpg Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 88
5.John Hopkins http://www.highrevs.net/Icons/usa_flag.jpg Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 83
6.Marco Melandri http://www.highrevs.net/Icons/ita_flag.jpg Honda Gresini 81
7.Colin Edwards http://www.highrevs.net/Icons/usa_flag.jpg Fiat Yamaha Team 65
8.Alex Barros http://www.highrevs.net/Icons/bra_flag.jpg Pramac d'Antin 60
9.Loris Capirossi http://www.highrevs.net/Icons/ita_flag.jpg Ducati Marlboro Team 57
10.Toni Elias http://www.highrevs.net/Icons/spa_flag.jpg Honda Gresini 49

That's after 8 rounds....

[Peter Vic]

And Casey has won 5 out of 8 - very good strike rate...

Cheers, Peter..

[Peter Vic]

and also proven that he can out-ride "the doctor" on most ocassions..

Tyre choice makes a big big difference, and also tyre manufacturer...
The Michelins are better suited to some track, but Bridgestone have made huge inraods this season...

Rossi is on the Michelins, and Stoner on the Brigestones....

Cheers, peter...

[Michael@ton]

Thanks Peter, have a good weekend. :thumb:

[Peter Vic]

Assen qualifying - round 9 of motogp

1. Vermeulen
2. Stoner
3. De Puniet
4. Melandri
5. Hopkins

7. Anthony West
11. Rossi.

Interesting results, but was a wet qualifying session - Racing on Fox sports from 10:00pm (Channel 10 from 12)

Cheers, Peter...

[Peter Vic]

Results from the Dutch Motogp....

1. Rossi
2. Stoner
3. Hayden (finally gets his act together)


And again, tyre manufacturer made the difference, but simply an amazing ride from Rossi - 11th on the grid, Stoner leading most of the way, but pressure from Rossi for about 16 laps, and he just blew Stoner away with a couple of laps to go..
Tightens up the championship, and going to make for a great last half of the season...

Cheers, Peter..

[Peter Vic]

If anyone follows the F1s.....

The results from the British GP....


1 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari
2 Fernando Alonso McLaren-Mercedes
3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
4 Robert Kubica BMW
5 Felipe Massa Ferrari
6 Nick Heidfeld BMW
7 Heikki Kovalainen Renault
8 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault
9 Rubens Barrichello Honda4
10 Jenson Button Honda
11 David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault
12 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota
13 Alexander Wurz Williams-Toyota
14 Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda
15 Christijan Albers Spyker-Ferrari2
16 Vitantonio Liuzzi STR-Ferrari
Ret Jarno Trulli Toyota
Ret Anthony Davidson Super Aguri-Honda
Ret Scott Speed STR-Ferrari5
Ret Ralf Schumacher Toyota
Ret Adrian Sutil Spyker-Ferrari
Ret Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault - Hydraulics problem !

[Michael@ton]

I believe this race (F1) was won from the grid and the first corner, Hamiliton got a really bad start and had to work back up to the podium, any of the surprise packages were dealt a severe blow on the grid and in particular the 1st turn, then it was simply a race for 3rd spot.

They have to do something about the starting system, maybe a rolling start or something else, one mistake on the grid and you have to work miracles to get back into the race.

As for the MotoGP, you can't keep a champion down forever, a very good ride from "the doctor", and yes Peter we certainly have a champioship on our hands.

[Peter Vic]

Hamilton also blew it in the pits - that was more his undoing, and that his tyre choice let him down too... He was one of the first to pit, and the pundits reckon he came in to early - The longer stint on the 2nd set of tyres cost him.....

Bad start(s) aside, you need everything else to go right....

Cheers, Peter...

[Peter Vic]

German MOTOGP on tonight.....

Qualifying :

1st. Stoner 2nd. Pedrosa 3rd. Melandri with 6th. Rossi

Cheers, Peter..

[Michael@ton]

Australia now have three (3) riders in the MotoGP, with West taking his place on a Kwaka, due to a crash of one of their first riders, I was listening to a interview he did recently on 2KY, he went right into the behind the scene goings on, how to get a ride you have to bring something to the Team, usually a Major Sponsor, he also went onto say that the Aussies did so good in the wet beacause they all came from Dirt-Bike Riding, until at least 15, mostly Casy, Chris and himself had all won national titles by about that age.

He also said that the tyres were getting very close these days and although he didn't say it, he implied that the Kwaka was the equal to any bike on the grid, yet we know that the Kwaka's top speed is inferior to Ducati and Honda, at the least.

Good to see 3 Aussies in the German MotoGP, although I have no idea where West qualified, I also think he is trying to talk himself up by mentioning Kwaka in the same sentence as Ducati and Honda, let alone Yamaha and "the doctor".

[Peter Vic]

Chris Vermeulen qualified 11th, Anthony West in 12th......

I'd love to see both of these guys on full factory sponsored machinery - same spec bikes as the top riders....

Make for a very interesting race...

Cheers, Peter...

BTW - the top 16 qualified within a second of each other.....

[Michael@ton]

Good result for Casey and a great ride from Anthony West, but a shame about Chris's drive-thru penalty, which virtually put him out of the race. Both on Kwaka's too, I think Kwaka doesn't put anywhere near as much money into racing as the other big teams, but it would be good to see them all on a level playing field, the Aussies would win the wet races all the time, because of their background in dirt bikes, but on a dry circuit there would be as many as 12 who could win on riding skills alone.

:!!!!yello

[Peter Vic]

Interestingly though - Last nights race did come down to tyres, and dropped Stoner down to 5th...
Michellins 3 of the top 4 places...

Hard to say if Vermeulen would have done that well - the suzukis have their issues too, and Hopkins (his teammate) has generally done better..
(in the dry that is...)

Westy finished 8th (kawasaki), CV in 11th on the Suzuki...

Cheers, Peter...

[Michael@ton]

GO THE AUSSIES AT LAGUNA SECA. :hurray::hurray:
If Casey wins it will be very hard for Rossi "the doctor" to make up the points to win the World Champioships, as it's on now, I will not divulge any placings. ;)

[Lady Bump]

HOLDEN DOES IT AGAIN
:12cheer:

[Michael@ton]

At LUGUNA SECA, they are taking some of the corners at 65degrees, which is almost impossible, without falling off.
About time we saw Bridgestone doing well in the DRY, obviously have come ahead leaps and bounds in the past 2 weeks, as prior to that Michelin had it all over them in the DRY, but in the wet the Bridgestone really come into their own.



Agree with Julie,


GREAT WIN HOLDEN.
:thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:

[Peter Vic]

Laguna Seca results :

1. Stoner (and won from pole position....!)
2. Vermeulen
3. Melandri
4. Rossi
5. Pedrosa
6. De Puniet
7. West

Great showing by the Aussies, but Stoner won by 10+ sec......

Cheers, Peter...

[Michael@ton]

Hope I didn't give the results away Peter, but I watched it live, so wanted to tell you but thought you might have taped it,

Watching Casey taking those corners at 65degree was incredible, they showed his riding style most of the race, very little on Chris, but what a great result, in the dry, by him, even though Casey beat him convincingly, both on Bridgestone and a long way in front of the Americans, who usually win this race.

I think we have the next World MotoGP champion. :hurray::hurray::hurray::hurray:

[Chas]

Go Holden :thumb:

[Kitkat]

I think we have the next World MotoGP champion. :hurray::hurray::hurray::hurray:

one way to put the mockas on a person is predict that they will win - still too earlier to claim Casey as a Champ

[Chas]

one way to put the mockas on a person is predict that they will win - still too earlier to claim Casey as a Champ



Weber got a 3rd in F1 ......... definately the next world champ as well


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[Lady Bump]

Never know I might slip into the leathers and take them all on:3rofl3:

[Chas]

Gonna take em on with your Moped are you Bumps


:thumb:

[Lady Bump]

Yep all the other riders would be distracted on the view ahead:laughing:

[Chas]

Yep all the other riders would be distracted on the view ahead:laughing:



Your not going to advertise "Black Rose" on your leathers are you



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[Lady Bump]

You been googling too chastity ...was intending it to be an unveiling the other riders wouldnt forget:lmaoblue:

[Kitkat]

I can imagine the shape of the trophy on the dias:laughing::laughing:

[Lady Bump]

:3rofl3:checkered design too:lmaoblue:

[Kitkat]

:27nocomme :lmaoblue::lmaoblue:

[Lady Bump]

But bet its got everyones minds ticking over:3rofl3::3rofl3:

[Chas]

But bet its got everyones minds ticking over:3rofl3::3rofl3:


Not really...... there should be enough room to get "Black Rose" and website across your :butthead:



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[Lady Bump]

:3rofl3:yes the back view of a bike rider always seems larger than life:3rofl3:

[Peter Vic]

both on Bridgestone and a long way in front of the Americans, who usually win this race.

Hard to say...
Given that Hopkins took out Hayden, the results are skewed...
Hayden is really good around Laguna, so it would have been interesting if he'd actually been able to race...


Superbikes on Sunday night - Muggeridge took out Bayliss, so perhaps it was catching - take out your fellow countryman in a race...

Cheers, Peter...

[Peter Vic]

I can imagine the shape of the trophy on the dias:laughing::laughing:


:3rofl3:checkered design too:lmaoblue:

How many handles is it going to have ????

:hahaha:

[Lady Bump]

Afraid I wont comment further on the subject peter.

[Michael@ton]

I couldn't believe the Commentator when he was calling Trevor Bayliss's mishap, at first he couldn't or wouldn't (more like it) believe it and then when he realized it was Trevor, his voice raised about 3 Octaves, after all it was just one race, and certainly didn't cause Bayliss to lose the Competition. :laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

Don't really think it would have changed first place, Hayden's stack, although he could have been on the podium, Casey is getting better with each ride on the Ducati and even the Bridgestones didn't have that much affect on the result. He is fairly flying at the moment and unless they disqualify Ducati, we will have the next World Champion MotoGP rider, sorry Kat I'm not in the least bit supperstitious. :huge:

[Kitkat]

we will have the next World Champion MotoGP rider, sorry Kat I'm not in the least bit supperstitious. :huge:

I do believe everyone said the same thing about Michael Doohan back in 1994 before he had that horrific accident at Assen where he broke his leg in about 20 places.

Better to wait until the egg has hatched before you proclaim it a chicken.:cheers:

[Michael@ton]

I do believe everyone said the same thing about Michael Doohan back in 1994 before he had that horrific accident at Assen where he broke his leg in about 20 places.

Better to wait until the egg has hatched before you proclaim it a chicken.:cheers:

You are right in a lot of things you say and I agree I have over-reacted but it was in light of the vision of how he handled that Ducati on the weekend, it was as though he was part of the bike, but alas we do have a lot of other riders on the track.

He doesn't have to win another race, so he doesn't have to push it as hard anymore, but he has to stay close to "the doctor" in all remaining races, and hopefully not get taken out by some-one else, :cheers:.

[Chas]

Better to wait until the egg has hatched before you proclaim it a chicken.:cheers:


Yep.... could turn out to be a duck


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Reckons some of thems Tour De France boys would give them MotoGP boys a run for their money :thumb:

[Lady Bump]

Bit of a scandal there:3rofl3: Know wonder they can pedal fast:3rofl3:

[Kitkat]

things not quite right when your own team withdraws you from the race:lmaoblue::lmaoblue::lmaoblue:

[Michael@ton]

In some ways it has done Australia some good, Cadell has moved into 2nd place, only about 150kms or so to go, so he'll have to pedal his :butthead: off, especially in the last time trial, but it looks like we will have another Aussie on a podium, :hurray::hurray::hurray:, a kid from a Victorian farm, who's best friend was his BMX :8bike:, but then again there are some distances between properties down there. :!!!!yello

[Peter Vic]

Reckons some of thems Tour De France boys would give them MotoGP boys a run for their money :thumb:

Always makes you wonder how "professional" teams reckon they can get away with it....
Either that, or it just goes to show that you don't need brains to ride a bike fast !! Just a good team "doctor"....
:hahaha:

Cheers, Peter...

[Chas]

Just a good team "doctor"....
:hahaha:

Cheers, Peter...


Who knows just the right mix of nitrous


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[Michael@ton]

The USA Street Circuit is to be played/replayed tonight on free to air TV, Channel 7 at 12.30am, from Elkhart Lake, I so much rather the Street Circuits to the Oval Tracks in CHAMP CARS, although I know that it is highly dangerous in both types of Racing, in fact if anything the Oval Circuits usually are more dangerous, because of the extra speed and the Centrifugal Forces which amasses amazing G FORCES on the drivers bodies.:!!!!yello:!!!!yello

Give us a good race tonight, and I will be happy. :thumb::thumb::thumb:

[Peter Vic]

Sunday, August 12, 2007

SPARTA, Ky. – Dario Franchitti should be resigned to seeing video of his latest airborne escapade again and again (ad nausea) on TV and the Internet this week.
Yes, for the second consecutive race – within six days – Franchitti's No. 27 Canadian Club Dallara/Honda/Firestone left the racing surface after making contact with another car.....

Some highlights of this race, some of the most amazing footage ever..

http://www.indycar.com/multimedia/videos/player.php?v=753


Darios teammate - Danika Patrick does some amazing stuff with her car - nearly taking out the safety car in a big way after a rear tyre explodes at very high speed....

http://www.indycar.com/multimedia/videos/player.php?v=752


This was from the week prior :

http://www.indycar.com/multimedia/videos/player.php?v=738


Cheers, Peter...

[Kitkat]

I hope Dario realises he may not be so lucky third time around - oval tracks are too dangerous - he's won Indy this year - retire while you have the chance

[Lady Bump]

Did you see Marcus Ambrose is 13th In america.. dont really like that style of raceing but hes done well.. Tasmanian Too:w7:

[Kitkat]

reckons he was robbed of second place last week and this week the other drivers are blaming him for an accident

[Lady Bump]

Naturally they blame him.. hes the newcommer:3rofl3:

[Kitkat]

and an Aussie :!ban_danc:!ban_danc

[Lady Bump]

No Kat.... Tasmanian;)

[Kitkat]

ahhhhhhhhh that explains the accidents:16wink:

[Lady Bump]

His Father Ross was a terrific driver in his day, he was a local and had this wicked little mini:16wink:

[Kitkat]

His Father Ross ....And had this wicked little mini:16wink:

Skirt :grin:

[Lady Bump]

No I had that ... Im going back a bit here:3rofl3::3rofl3:

[Kitkat]

what about the hotpants - gold ones like Kyle's:3rofl3::3rofl3::3rofl3: PHOTOS PLEEEEEEEASE!!

[Chas]

ahhhhhhhhh that explains the accidents:16wink:



Never held a license


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